Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Next Gen - The Heroines

The idea of doing a ‘Next Generation’ post for our heroines came from the comments section of the post on the young heroes. But making this short list turned out to be quite tough since the positions of our heroines is so different from the positions of our heroes. But then again, it was more fun too :-)

Most importantly, Tamil cinema is unabashedly hero-centric. It’s the heroes who bring in the crowds to the theaters and the heroines are usually little more than props in a movie. The bigger the hero, the smaller the heroine’s role. So their survival usually depends more on the heroes (their chemistry with them, the fate of the movies where they’ve been paired with them, etc) rather than on their own looks or talent. There’s also the sheer number of contestants since every other movie these days seems to have a new, pretty young thing as its heroine.

But inspite of this, we’ve had a number of heroines make a mark in the past. They are the ones who pair up with the biggest stars but also get movies where they get the chance to play important roles. They have their own fans and play a significant part in the movies’ success. Going backwards from today I would pick Jo, Simran, Kushboo and Revathi to be the top heroines of the last 15 years or so.

With that in mind, here are my predictions for the 5 actresses of today who have the biggest probability of making a mark in the next generation of Tamil cinema. In other words, these actresses haven’t reached the position held by those heroines I mentioned earlier but have the best chance of doing so.

5. Pooja
Here’s an actress whose time is due. I’ve been rooting for her ever since she stole the show from Amoga in Jay Jay but its only now that she finally seems to be getting noticed. After a line of flops, Pattiyal proved that she’s not really jinxed and she has a few films lined up. A couple of more hits, and she’ll be in the running for the top spot.

4. Nayantara
Considering that her first 2 movies were with Sarath and Rajni, I’m surprised that Nayan’s come this far. Our younger heroes are known for sidelining heroines who’ve acted with more senior heroes (Meena comes to mind) but Nayan seems to be doing the balancing act well (this Diwali she has movies with Sarath, Simbhu and Jeeva). But I think her ‘senior’ tag will still work against her and she does have a mature look that makes her look older than most younger heroes.

3. Bhavana
Just her lineup of movies makes Bhavana the next big thing in Tamil cinema. While she is cute enough for the light romances, Bala’s Naan Kadavul offers her the chance to be taken seriously as an actress too. If she continues to keep up this balancing act and keeps away from the glamour route, she could end up as her generation’s Revathi.

2. Trisha
She is definitely pretty but I think the biggest factor in Trisha’s current standing in Tamil cinema, is luck. She’s been incredibly lucky(or sensible) in picking films that end up as hits while rejecting – or not being considered for – similar films that eventually flop. Consider Saamy and Arul. Unakkum Enakkum and Mazhai. She’s yet to prove herself as a great actress or dancer and hasn’t so far had a film that could be called hers. But time is on her side…

1. Asin
She is the only actress who has proved herself so far and that makes me place her at the top of the list. She is cute, she can act, she is great at comedy and she seems to be the heroine of choice for the biggest stars today. Those were the aspects that characterized the top heroines of the past in their earlier days and they should help Asin reach that top spot in the future also.

Sabaash... Seriyaana Poatti!

57 Comments:

At 11:03 PM, Blogger srivatsan said...

Chinna pulla thanama irukku :-)None in the list have acting capabilities of Tabu, Revathi, Padmapriya, Rohini etc.

Anyway I feel Bhavana is better of the lot.

rgds,
Srivatsan

 
At 11:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I think of an heroine, who is pretty young and yet having serious acting capability. Sandhya comes to mind. She may be only two films old, but sure has a great future, I believe.

As for bhavana, she looks good.. a definite YES..! but serious acting wise, i `ve noticed her in a couple of Malayalam movies. If Kavya Madhavan is still preferred over her, there are again definite reasons, which make us wonder how far ahead she will stay in the race, She cannot be compared to Revathi.. laila perhaps..!

With Best Regards,
Srijith.

 
At 11:35 PM, Blogger Balaji said...

srivatsan, "Chinna pulla thanama irukku" - that's pretty much the motto of this blog :) they probably cannot be compared to revathi, tabu, etc. now. but thats the point of the post. they have the time to grow and we gotta wait and c if they reach that position...

srijith, i have actually mentioned b4 that sandhya would be the next revathi. but not so sure now. not sure if she could carry off glamorous roles well, which is usually a requirement for top heroines (revathi was an exception). haven't seen any of bhavana's mallu movies but i'm guessing bala saw something in her to select her for 'naan kadavul'... but laila is a good comparison :)

 
At 12:09 AM, Blogger skanda said...

Where is Meera Jasmine in this list?...Meera is really good in films like "Ayutha Elathu" and "Sandai Kozhi"....

i also think that Bhavana has still some way to go before can be considered in the top 3..she has only one release so far only...i think that Reema sen should be included as she has given the most number of hits recently...she also has the looks, glamour and acting capabilities and also chooses her films well...

 
At 12:10 AM, Anonymous Sandya said...

I would've loved to see Gopika on this list, but am guessing that she could never make it into the top 5 ever, just because she looks too mature and too homely for her own good. Unfortunately for her, with the exception of Autograph and to a limited extent, Kanaa Kanden, none of her other films (Ponniyin Selvan, Aran or Em Magan) have given her a great deal to hit home runs with.. Sigh!..

Of course, she has "Mallu" written all over her face (which I feel is the same with Nayanthara as well, for whatever reason! :-).. Speaking of N, all I can think of everytime that I even see her name, is PLUMP.. she may have shrunk a few pounds, but she will always look plump to me.. and that's no longer the flavor of the year in the tamil industry.

Balaji, as you have said, Trisha will have to start acting sometime this century to get anywhere. She is where she has been for the longest time.. She trailed Simran and then trailed Jothika.. now she trails Asin.. Don't know how many more she is going to trail before her season ends.

I doubt we will ever have a "Revathi," "Bhanupriya," "Nadhiya," "Amala" phase in tamil cinema again, the way we did in the 80's and 90's.. mostly, because our directors are dreadfully scared to do female oriented subjects anymore and some of the most innovative scripts have only bombed in their faces. I don't think any of the current crop (barring maybe Asin and Bhavana) would even try to demonstrate some histrionics if they are forced to do so.. but neither of these two heroines have done anything earth shattering yet to make us believe that they could be capable to greater things.

 
At 12:47 AM, Anonymous leo said...

yes my choice is Asin....she is very good....let us see how she acts with kamal in dasavathaaram...

 
At 12:52 AM, Anonymous raj said...

M E E R A J A S M I N E. Enough said.
P.S: I am not a MJ fan :-)

 
At 1:33 AM, Blogger Bart said...

As pointed out by some above, Meera Jasmine is very much wanted in this list. She is THE only person who can carry a heroine-centric movie all by herself as compared to anyone in the list (not even Asin or Bhavna).
I would also certainly consider Padmapriya alongwith if not better than Pooja.
Bcoz of the director, I would wait for Vimala (Poi) to arrive, before evaluating.
In the Sizzlers category, Namitha and Reema Sen should be there :)
But to be honest, I cannot see anyone in the list touching the heights of Sreedevi, Kushboo or Simran..

 
At 1:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

One wonders if any of the actresses mentioned can hold light to the histrionics of Revathi,Gouthami, Abirami etc. If acting abilities are the deciding factor, then none of them will make the list. But the current requirements of Kollywood leading ladies must be a great deal of glam, lip synching and pelvic thrusting etc, to name a few. Till that changes...the list is highly subjective.

 
At 1:48 AM, Anonymous Lola said...

Trisha didnt play in Arul or Mazhai, it was Joythika in Arul and Shrieya in Mazhai. Trisha did play in the telugu version of Mazhai(Varsham). Trisha was good in Varsham and Unakkum Enakkum.

 
At 1:51 AM, Anonymous lola said...

Sorry Balaji...I got it wrong. You meant she rejected Arul and Mazhai.

 
At 2:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're right in the case of Asin;though I did not like Ghajini;she was good in it.Hope Godfather(Where Ajithkumar is hero)is good.I did not see Pattiyal or Bhavana's movies to comment on Bhavana or Pooja.

 
At 4:30 AM, Blogger skanda said...

It is still early to put in Bhavana and Pooja in it..lets wait for thier forthcoming movies and c....Bhavana looks like a Trisha clone...there was some recent stills of her new movie "Deepavali" where she tries to copy Trisha's look and style including the custumes...

 
At 6:07 AM, Anonymous RDX said...

Good post...Hoped u took a look at the new vallavan trailer@indiaglitz.com. 10 mins long trailer and does look veri promising....Lookin forward to vallavan for diwali

 
At 6:16 AM, Anonymous karthik sc said...

This is something I want to know out of curiosity.who was the last mainstream heroine who's mother tongue was tamil and who was not a brahmin?

 
At 6:23 AM, Anonymous karthik sc said...

is aparna who acted with danush in "pudukotai lendu saravanan" a tamil girl although she clearly has not dubbed for her voice in the movie.
i felt that she was very sexy.but she did not get any offers.we hypocrites only like dark heroes romancing fair girls from the north,andhra,kerala and karnataka

 
At 7:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am just waiting for leo to somehow come barging into this discussion with his "Ajith is the best..he has come up by himself" rhetoric :)

 
At 8:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

meera jasmine mookku jasthi, but she is really a good actress, i think she and azhagana sandhya are the revathis of the future. abhirami is absolutely gorgeous and a good actress, if she ever gets a tamil role again. the trouble with trisha, who is also beautiful, is that her voice is not well-modulated.

karthik, i think this trend will die soon, it reached its absolute nadir in laila, it has no where further to sink.

 
At 9:15 AM, Blogger Filbert said...

Glad to see Pooja in the list. I thought she was pretty good in even Thambi, apart from Jay Jay and Pattiyal. She is the one actress I have confidence in. And from what I read here in the comments section, looks like Meera Jasmine (the only actress among all that we are discussing here with a national award) will be in most people's list.

Bhavna, Pooja, Sandhya, Meera Jasmine and Asin would make up my list. I guess we should ignore Trisha as long as she ignores Tamil cinema by concentrating more on Telugu movies (much like Sidharth)

 
At 9:23 AM, Anonymous ram said...

nice post...obviously a more entertaining read than the one on heroes ;-)

here're my picks:

5. madhumitha-> mite seem a very strange choice to be even put on this list...i know she has a career thats going nowhere...dont even know if she has any offers on hand (she'd be no.2 on my list, if otherwise)...but i'd choose her any day for a meaty role if i were to become a director...was stunned by her performance in Kudaikkull Mazhai...she was also quite good in amudhe...

4. trisha-> she's got a pretty face. nothing more, nothing less. cant act to save her life...will do the "appear in a movie, attend the vetri vizha with mummy" routine for awhile.

3. nayantara-> liked her in c-mukhi, hated her in ghajini, loved her in kallvanin kadhali...she was delightful in that movie...and, having a co-star who looks like SJS i guess added to her beauty...looking fwd to vallavan...

2. reema sen-> sexy with a capital S! if simbu's words are anything to go by, she's going to steal the show in vallavan...she's just acted in commercial potboilers till now, but has shown sparks of acting talent in chellame...

1. Asin -> No prizes for guessing who the winner is, in this no-contest...cute, pretty, effervescent, perky, expressive...kanavukanni...en brothergaluku elaam manni ;)

 
At 9:33 AM, Anonymous ram said...

i really hope the guy in the pic does not read this blog:
http://ia.rediff.com/movies/2006/oct/18spot.htm
LUCKY BAS....!!!!
(BB, am sure u were cursing me on similar lines when u saw a similar pic of me with sneha!)

 
At 12:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

balaji, thanks so much for doing this post! it's always fun to see what you and your readers think about topics of such utmost importance ;-)

i'm (obviously) glad to see asin at the top of your list, she has the enviable combination of beauty, talent and a strong business sense. however i fear that she will let her shrewdness overpower her and she will make safe commercial movies over risky character driven movies. she definitely will be successful and a force to be reckoned with in the tamil movie industry.

bhavana, i need to see more of, naan kadavul could be the "make it or break it" movie for her career. sandya, who's been mentioned by other commenters, is a great actress and from photos i've seen of her lately, she seems to have slimmed down and is looking beautiful. i guess it remains to be seen what types of roles she takes in the future. nayanthara is a glamour actress, and i think that reema sen is better at that (and she has acting ability, like in chellame, it's too bad she hasn't had more opportunities like that). she's also back in the limelight with her on-screen pairing with vishal. i completely agree with you re: pooja and trisha. meera jasmine is a talented young woman, but she has been making bad business decisions left and right and the media has not been very good to her lately.

my top five would be:
5. reema sen
4. sandya
3. pooja
2. trisha
1. asin

 
At 1:04 PM, Blogger Balaji said...

skanda, yes MJ is a very good actress but at this point, i don't see her being a top heroine in the near future.

if i'd made this list after 'minnale', reema sen would've been at the top of the list :) but the 2nd heroine roles and the pairings with arjun didnt help. but u're right about the pairing with vishal. lets wait and see if it helps...

sandya, that might again be a 'chicken and egg' thing... if a director attempts a female-oriented theme with 1 of these actresses and the film clicks, they may get better roles. and that would pave the way for another amala, nadiya or revathi... but they need to prove themselves b4 a director can attempt a film like that...

and i think gopika, meera, padmapriya all fall into the same category. good actresses but can't carry off glamour too well...

leo, yeah that will be a big movie for her. lets hope other heroes don't sideline her after that for pairing with kamal!

raj, some of the heroes were more popular than the others in the heroes post. and it looks like MJ has the most number of fans in this case...

bart, yes MJ can carry a heroine-centric movie but falls short in the glamor dept. and i think that's an important characteristic to rise to the top the way tamil cinema is right now... same with padmapriya. the dress in that 'pattiyal' song didn't suit her at all...
as for sizzlers, i agree with reema but not namitha. i think the latter's more a fad and not a longlasting phenomemon in tamil cinema...

anon, i think acting is still an important aspect to be a top heroine. even if u consider heroines like simran for whom glamor played an important part, they were good actresses too. those other things u mention r important but so is acting. and thats why i put asin at the top...

lola, yes i meant she acted in 'saamy' but not in 'arul', which had the same hero and director. similarly, she acted in 'unakkum enakkum' but not in 'mazhai', which was a telugu remake with the same hero.

ganesh, 'varalaru', 'pokiri' and 'dasaavatharam' r 3 biggies for asin. so good chance for her to consolidate her position...

rdx, no haven't seen it yet. will chk it out soon...

karthik, yes aparna was good. she also acted in ABCD, another flop. chaya singh is another actress who i think deserved a better chance...

 
At 2:04 PM, Anonymous ram said...

manasukull mathaapu:
http://www.hindu.com/mp/2006/10/19/stories/2006101900540100.htm

 
At 2:07 PM, Blogger மு.கார்த்திகேயன் said...

Oh..Asin is in the first place..Good..I expected this...

 
At 2:32 PM, Blogger மு.கார்த்திகேயன் said...

List is too good Balaji.. Asin is having all the capabilities to be at top..

At currently, except rajini she is doing with all top hereos and dual in dasavathaaram :-))

 
At 4:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Sandhya is still in the running after getting the role in Selvaraghavan new movie, he is the only guy around who seems to giving equal footing to his female characters these days. Agreed puthupettai was an exception.

 
At 4:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

sad that people are placing bets on who will be #1 at the box office rather than who is really talented.

 
At 5:48 PM, Blogger rads said...

I donno 3 of the girls you mentioned, but Asin and Trisha seem to have what it takes. The camera loves them, and they are cute. At least in the few of Ive seen.

 
At 6:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's strange that asin and bhavana are only two actresses in the list of heroines.

 
At 11:06 PM, Anonymous Sanjeevi said...

Somebody said that Asin will not be in the list of Sridevi, Kushboo, Simran. Yes she is incomparable. She is more than any previous actress.

 
At 12:04 AM, Anonymous raj said...

balaji, I think if you are making a list to continue Gouthami, Banupriya, Khushboo, Simran, then MJ wouldnt amke that list.But to say this list is a successor to Revathi also and then to include Trisha etc but not Meera is a sin. The only actress today who can hold a candle to Revathi is MJ. Besides, Revathi herself was no glam doll.She has never done glam roles and even when she paired with Rajni, Kamal, and even Vijaykanth, Karthik, she had meaty roles. She was the only one who could carry a heroine oriented movie. Khushboo, later came close to that but she never had the acting skills of revathi.

So, if you are looking for a successor to Revathi, it must be Meera and no one else. OTOH, if you are merely looking for the Khushboo, Simran, Jyothika types(lots of glamour with a good amount of acting skills thrown in..err.okay that would exclude jyothika from this list so lets go easy on that), then, ,yes MJ doesnt make that list.

I really hope Kamal does a movie with Meera - that can give her the right break in this hero-dominated industry.

 
At 12:06 AM, Anonymous raj said...

I would have included Navya nair for her acting skills but yes, she can at best be a poor man's MJ.

I also thought Priya Mani is a lovely lass with decent acting skills. But I think she is doomed to be called unlucky and banished forever.

 
At 12:08 AM, Anonymous raj said...

karthik sc, i would agree with you on aparna but sadly, we dont care much for dark skinned girls, dont we?
I think aparna has the potential to be tamizh thirai's Mallika Sherawat atleast :-)

 
At 12:58 AM, Blogger skanda said...

Is a real pity that Snegha is already out of the race...she is one of the few actreses who has both beuty and acting capabilities...what has happen to her now?...she does not seem to be acting in any tamil films these days...heard that she is acting some telugu films...By the way, there is no mention of Sada anywhere?....

 
At 3:08 AM, Blogger Bart said...

I would like to second Raj on MJ comparison with Revathi. Infact, she has handled regular roles in a few commercial movies pretty well (Ayudha Ezhuthu, Run, Bala, Sandai kozhi comes to my mind immdly).
On Sandhya, would wait for another 2-3 movies...
My impressions on Padmapriya are biased more after seeing Mallu movies than her Tamil ones (Kaazhcha and Vadakkumnathan)... So, you can discount her...

 
At 6:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i also vote for MJ........she's talented and incredibly beautiful...as for bad publicity, she's still so young, people need to give her a break

U guys complain about how these days actresses don't have any talent and then sideline the few actresses who can act......get ur priorities straight.....just because they can't pull off western clothes, they should not have to lose their careers......after all, they are Indians, I think it should be sufficient if they look nice in Indian clothes.....

U can accept vije as promising, who would get stones thrown at him if he ever stepped into bolly/hollywood, but have trouble with gopika, sandya??

Start appreciating actresses for their talent instead of tophy-value...It can start with u guys...

 
At 7:49 PM, Blogger Sundar Narayanan said...

enna balaji, namithavoda potential paththi oru vaarthai, ore oru vaarthai kuda sollaliye.. cha.

here is a quiz question for you.

If Asin's potential is 3.0 Volts and Trisha's potential is 1.5 Volts, calculate Namitha's potential ?

here is a hint.. it is a trick question.

 
At 10:13 PM, Anonymous vijay said...

Considering the style of filmamking prevalent today,none of these actresses will make it big, even if they did have any potential. Its all about heroism and mass masalas down south. Bala makes films once every 3 years,doesnt help.


Balaji, regarding your opinion that glamour being an important factor in becoming the numero uno, I mostly agree but if Jyothika with zero sex appeal( "chappa figure" to quote Vivek) and very limited acting abilities could be considered "numero uno" for a short while there is still some hope for the Meera Jasmines and Padmapriyas.

If you compare the 80s list to the current list, you will notice thats its a women vs girls list :-) We had mature, beautiful full-bodied WOMEN in the 80s donning a variety of roles vs teen kids like Trisha,Asin these days. I cant think of a single actress from the current lot who could have done Suhasini's role in Sindhubhairavi, for instance. Yadhaarthamaana nadippu, maturity missing. Trisha sucks especially considering her status in Tamil/telugu filmdoms. How long will she be doing these cho-chweet kind of roles? While Nayanthara looks too mature physically :-), she sucks in pretty much everything. Its no wonder these guys have her as one of their mascots along with Ajith
http://www.silverscreen.in/

I hope she gets sent packing off to Kerla soon along with her loser-boyfriend -the Chimp.

 
At 11:17 PM, Anonymous ram said...

Vijay, when and where exactly did Vivek refer to Jo as "chappa figure." Looks like you're the one who's making that up...If I remember, Vivek kindal-adichified Sadha as a sappa figure in Anniyan.

"zero sex appeal and limited acting abilities" -- joke of the year 2007. but dont worry, I will not have a 179-comment argument abt that!

Suhasini and 'yadhartham' - nalla oil and water combination...she was a fine actress but she was so over the top all the time...

"she sucks in pretty much everything" -- kadavule ena koarvaiyaa thitreenge...

I hope she gets sent packing off to Kerla -- aiyyo paavam...yaen thamizhnaatla romba population jaasthiyaagi kashtamaa irukaa? en kollu paati ode ellu paati ena visit panna varaange US-ku...so thamizhnaatula oru citizen kammi...so dont worry...nayantara can stay

 
At 11:38 PM, Anonymous Sandya said...

Ahaa.. vandhutaarya.. vandhutaarE :-).. Vijay is back.. and this time, I am going to go all out and say, Vijay, why of all actresses Suhasini?.. She threw in one of the most contrived, overacted, over-the-top performances ever in Sindhu Bhairavi. And I am not the only one who continues to throw criticisms at her.. they are very many who are beyond glad that she quit acting actively a long time ago. Thank you, there is a god!.. (Not to take anything away from Meera Jasmine, but if you want to replicate the role that Suhasini did in SB, I think MJ can do it just fine (minus the overacting, if you'd like! I'm not a big MJ fan, but looking at her overall capacity, I do think she may be able to do justice)).

With the same token, if you had said "En Bommukutti Ammavukku" or "Gopurangal Saaivadhillai" Suhasini.. I would've said "Kudos." That would have been the right choice and right match to talk about here.. Those roles that Suhasini did in those films were probably the only two gems that she could be proud of. For her limited acting calibre, I should give it to her.. she picked some really good films to add to her resume: "Nenjaththai Killadhae," "Palaivana Cholai," etc. Quite surprising!

Anyways, that said, above all the Suhasinis, there are those wonderous actresses like "Mudhal Mariyaadhai" Radha, "Achchamillai Achchamillai" Saritha, "Karpoora Mullai" Amala, "Poove Poochudavaa" Nadiya, "Veedu" Archana, "Moondram Pirai," "Meendum Kokila," Sridevi (to select just a couple :-), "Kizhakku Vaasal," "Mouna Raagam," "Marupadiyum" Revathi (again, to select just a few! ;-)..

Personally, the "Mohan" phase of tamil cinema was probably one of the best times heroines ever had in tamil cinema.. Those were the times heroines had lots of scope to act. Take any of Mohan's films, (Pillai Nila, Mella Thirandhadhu Kadhavu, 24 Mani Neram, Udhaya Geetham, Thendrale Ennai Thodu, Paasa Paravaigal, 100 Days, Kunguma Chimizh, Rettai Vaal Kuruvi, Gopurangal Saaivadhillai etc. etc... his list is very long and very impressive indeed!). You will find that most of the heroines in these films have thrown in superlative performances in more than one instance.. Obviously, the priorities of heroes and the film industry as a whole was totally different back then. I would very much like to think that Mohan has less of an 'ego,' than our current crop of heroes; may have very well been the reason why his heroines did fantabulously jobs in his movies.

As much as movie making has become high-level business now, considering producers are seeing 'green'($) and international dough at that, it's no surprise that, what makes 'business sense' largely rules over 'aesthetics.' But then again, we have always made mass masalas part of our staple diet.. we got ourselves into this, I'm sure our heroines know that better than anybody else, when they venture into acting in tamil movies..

 
At 5:43 AM, Anonymous raj said...

vijay, i'd have to jump to the "suhasini-is-not-natural" bandwagon. Especially in Sindhu Bhairavi. Especially, her "crook-the-eyes-twist-upper-lip-then-lower-lip-and-hope-it-is-interpreted-as-an-enigmatic-smile" routine, magnified in Sindhu Bhairavi thanks to a like-minded director.
Adhavadhu, let's look at it this way. Natural acting-ku oru example paarthuttu appuram suhaisni-ya compare pannalam:
Mohan lal is a natural actor - and he effortlessly delivers natural performances.
Now, I am sure you cant dispute that. If you agree that this is what is called natural acting, can you really argue that what Suhasini does is natural?

Suhasini was an extremely limited actor - just compare with Revathi of those times. I will not go overboard and list out Radha,Nadhiya, Ambika as better than Suhasini. But surely, she will came way behind Revathi, Archana and Sridevi, at the minimum?
And ofcourse, MJ will deliver a *BETTER* performance if we remade Sindhu Bhairavi. I think you actualyl meant that Asin, Trisha et al cannot do it and forgot MJ.

 
At 7:49 AM, Anonymous vijay said...

"Vijay, when and where exactly did Vivek refer to Jo as "chappa figure." Looks like you're the one who's making that up...If I remember, Vivek kindal-adichified Sadha as a sappa figure in Anniyan."

Ram , I never said Vivek referred to Jo. I said I was just quoting Vivek. I have seen Vivek using this phrase in a couple of movies and I borrowed it here to refer to Jo, thats all. Looks like you misunderstood it.

""zero sex appeal and limited acting abilities" -- joke of the year 2007. but dont worry, I will not have a 179-comment argument abt that!"

True, even for me its a joke, seeing how you guys worship a terribly limited actress like that :-)Glad that we wont see more of her in the future, or atleast hoping for that.

"Suhasini and 'yadhartham' - nalla oil and water combination...she was a fine actress but she was so over the top all the time..."

Kamal and Sivaji have been accused of being over-the-top several times too, so that makes them poor actors? The least that could be said about Suhasini was the she can emote better than any of the current actresses, including Nayan-sucky-thara. And you yourself have agreed that she is a "fine actress". Case closed.


"Vijay is back.. and this time, I am going to go all out and say, Vijay, why of all actresses Suhasini?."


to Sandhya, Raj and others, Suhasini may not be the perfect actress but I picked her as just ONE example from the 80s, not THE example. She cant even be called as a leading actress of the 80s but she had her share of good roles. She could definitely emote and whether its over-the-top or not depended on the director,movie and of course your perception. There is a general perception that most heroines in Balachandar's movies are made to do some mannerisms and so on, making them look over-the-top. But Sandhya has saved me some time by listing some other good movies of Suhasini like Nenjaththai KiLLaadhe.


But the least that could be said about her was the she could emote way better than any of the current numero unos of the last 5 years. Let me put it this way, if Suhasini was a terrible "over-actor" then by comparison the current heroines are non-actresses

"Suhasini was an extremely limited actor - just compare with Revathi of those times. I will not go overboard and list out Radha,Nadhiya, Ambika as better than Suhasini. But surely, she will came way behind Revathi, Archana and Sridevi, at the minimum?"

Raj, the very fact that you compare her with those actresses tells a lot about her abilities. and she wasnt even a leading actress of the 80s. Thats the point I was trying to make, as to how in addition to the leading commercial actresses of that time we also had the Suhasinis and the Archanas as a bonus. And I dont think Meera Jasmine could have carried that role off. Suhasini also had that perfect brahminical accent and a sort of certain chemistry with Sivakumar. Meera is a good actress, but in my opinion she wouldnt ahve been quite convincing in that role. And FYI, no actress is perfect, I have reads lots of reviews opinions about Revathi screaming her head off in a lot of films and her dialogue delivery being unclear as a result-during the Anjali, Marupadiyum times and I have to agree too.

But the bigger issue here is not that of me convincing you all as to whether Suhasini was a great actress or not, but to drive home the point as to how the current bunch of actresses including so-called numer unos like Jyothika have very limited to non-existent capabilities. The only example that people keep coming up from present times repeatedly is Meera Jasmine and nothing else :-) and Meera doesnt even get to do films on a regular basis here.

 
At 7:58 AM, Anonymous vijay said...

http://www.silverscreen.in/?s=nayanthara

:-)

 
At 7:30 PM, Blogger Sundar Narayanan said...

balaji

i miss your blog.. especially the comment section..

why dont you start a special group blog for the guys who pretty much write posts in your comment section..

:)

when a comment is more than 1000 words, blogger should automatically give a warning and say "This comment is invalid. Post it instead ?"

:)

 
At 8:32 PM, Anonymous raj said...

vijay, I can see where you are coming from. I am definitely not saying that Suhasini sucks in comparsion to present-day actresses. Ofcourse, being a MJ fan, I'd go ahead and say that MJ is a better actress than Suhasini - whether or not she does Sindhu Bhairavi as well as Suhasini :-)> Afterall, Sunjay Dutt did better in Munnabhai than Kamal did in Vasoolraja :-). Besides, I meant MJ could perform the character of Sindhu very well - not her brahminical backdrop etc. And Suhasini being a Brahmin, we cant give much additional points to her for pulling off the brahminical accent, can we?

Well, I agree MJ doesnt find a place in Tamil Film top heroines list in reality - but I was merely comparing MJ and Suhasini as actresses here - its got nothing to do with whether she is a top tamil actress commercially or otherwise.
Yeah, it is sad that the one actress of today we can compare to past greats is a TF irregular.

And I agree on Jyothika - vijay, it's like that only. Oru kaalathula we had Kamaraj. We now have Karunanidhi. Once we had Kannadasan. Now we have Pa.Vijay. I have well thought out this comparison - romba apt comparison in terms of fall in standards. Andha maadhiri dhaan idhuvum - allai illadha oorukku...
BTW, I am not 40+ in case someone wants to pick on the kamaraj-kannadasan angle and conclude that I am a old-timer:-)



Also, my comparsion of Suhasini with Revathi was just to put things in perspective. Revathi too was irritating in her "squeaky voice means high emotional acting" phase - you aptly quoted Marupadiyum and Anjali. But, overall, I think you'll agree that she is the better actress of the two.

To sum up, my opinion is that we atleast have a few actresses(read one:-)) capable of equalling past greats but who is giving them scope - the mallu brigade (not Nine-tara, A Sin etc but the meera, navya kind) seems to be capable of delivering outstanding performances- Navya, for instance, was the saving grace of TB(apt acronym for Thnakar)'s COA.

 
At 8:35 PM, Anonymous raj said...

sundar, ennanga naanga enna GDP of Chile pathi-ya pesinom inge? Relevant discussion dhaane - balaji, hope you dont mind these comments. I thought the post itself is to stimulate some discussion - illena soolidunga - atleast I will desist

 
At 8:37 PM, Anonymous raj said...

vijay,forgot to post this yesterday itself. I think i do understand what you mean by
"Nayanthara looks too mature physically :-), she sucks in pretty much everything"

But I had to read it a second time to understand - in the first reading, I thought why should Nayan suck in , as in draw in everything -avnaga enna vaccum cleaner-a appadinnu ?:-)

 
At 10:03 PM, Anonymous vijay said...

Raj,like I said earlier the argument here is not about whether Suhasini was better than Revathi or whether Suhasini was the no.1 actress of the 80s or whether Meera Jasmine is better than Suhasini or not. The argument was about how even a second-tier actress of those times could come up with performances that most leading actresses of today could'nt. And there were quite a few actresses in the 80s like Sridevi, Revathi,Radhika etc. whose versatility/performances were even better and definitely much better than what Meera Jasmine has displayed in her limited appearances in Tamil films so far.

 
At 11:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's not just that these girls of today are worse actresses, they are worse dancers, they are worse at speaking thamizh, they have worse figures (asin puberty eppo than reach panna pora enru kathindirukken), they have worse faces... who would even star in a remake of vanjikottai valiban?

 
At 12:05 PM, Anonymous vijay said...

"they are worse at speaking thamizh"

how many of them even dub with their own voices? Does even Meera Jasmine do it herself? thats another BIG differences between 80s actresses and today's lot. Same anooying voice of Savitha's from simran to jyothika to meera jasmine. It negates the impact quite a bit

 
At 3:19 AM, Blogger Shailaja said...

That’s really annoying to hear always then same voice for every single actress these days. Which of these above mentioned girls are speaking by her self? Even Trisha doesn’t. Why? Isn’t she tamil girl though? That’s really poor in tamil cinema. Every actress in holly- and bollywood has their own voices.
In my opinion a great actress has to able to speak in her movies.

 
At 9:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meera spoke in her own voice in Kastoori Maan for sure. Dont know about her other movies.
Well, when I was growing up in the 80's, my elders used to complain about the falling standards, in general, and in reference to heroines' abilities to act, in particular - scathing references were made to Suhasini, Rahda, Ambika, Radhika et al in terms of looks, emoting, dialogue delivery and 'acting' capabilities. Now, we are doing the same - only Radha Radhika Suhasini have become benchmarks now. Ada pongappa. Naalaikku (TFMPAGE padichavangulukku puriyum) Maddy, Curses, Magix ivanga ellam 2022-la "Asin maadhiri ippo vandhurukkura actresses-ale nadikka mudiyuma? Can Kumran do a Valee? Can peethika perform like Jyothika did in Chandramukhi" appadinu ellam ketka poranga.

I dont know why people get stuck up with "Our times" actress,MD,etc are the best syndrome.

 
At 6:52 AM, Blogger Shailaja said...

I don't really think the actress of 80's are better then today actress. Also in 80's there were actress never spoke in their movies like Radha and Amala ( I really liked her though). Anyway I read that Asin dubs herself in Tamil and Telugu movies. I thing she is going to be my favorite ;).

 
At 1:08 AM, Blogger venky said...

I think only one heroine is better
she is the no :1 heroine in south india she Acts with every super star of south india(only she) she is non other than meena.compare to that revathi,kushboo are not big heroines
even in Andhra&japan she had more fans,kushboo&revathi act only less films in telugu.meena also so much tradition,glamour full heroine in india so dont compare meene with cheapest heroines she is the lady superstar of south india.

 
At 1:17 AM, Anonymous Geeta said...

Please tell me why asin is no.1? When did she get enough scope to prove her histrionics? She only chooses big projects to propel herself and flees from ecperimenting. She is not even worthy to be in the list.

I hope to see Meera Jasmine, Reema Sen and Sandhya in the list soon.

 
At 1:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Please tell me why asin is no.1? When did she get enough scope to prove her histrionics? She only chooses big projects to propel her fame and flees from experimenting. She is not even worthy to be in the list.

I hope to see Meera Jasmine, Reema Sen and Sandhya in the list soon.'

- Yes geeta, i agree. a-sin is unbearable and overexposed. Hope ppl get sick of her soon

 

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