Monday, October 31, 2005

Sivakasi


Tamil cinema loves to stereotype its heroes and Vijay is definitely the most stereotyped among them right now. Walking into Sivakasi, you know exactly what is in store for you. And it does not let us down. It has fights, dances, sentiments and punch dialogs and in the middle, Vijay, obviously enjoying doing it all. That’s not exactly a bad thing. The problem is that Perarasu, who managed to package these same elements in an interesting manner in Tiruppaachi, fails to do so here.

Sivakasi (Vijay), a welder in Chennai, is an orphan. Hema (Asin), the college-going daughter of a rich jeweler, falls for him and Sivakasi reciprocates her love once he understands her sincerity. When Hema riles Sivakasi up about his lack of affection, he reveals his past to her. He had an affectionate father (Rajesh), a loving mother (Geetha), an older brother and a younger sister but had run away from home after his brother tricked him into accepting the blame for a wrongdoing. Under Hema’s goading, Sivakasi returns to his village after 15 long years but finds that his brother (Prakashraj) has still not mended his ways.

I have the same problem with Sivakasi that I had with movies like Dhum. Inspite of all the heroism, its hero is not a very likeable character. At different points in the film, Vijay comes off as being chauvinistic, egoistic, hot-headed, selfish, unreasonable and even callous. So we have a completely hero-centric film with a hero who is not likable.

The romance has a few fun moments as Asin plays a trick or two on Vijay though the same scenarios could have possibly been exploited in a much better manner by a more talented director. But it also contains some incredibly silly moments that don’t speak well of either Vijay or Asin. Added to this is the fact that we’re never really sure for quite some time if Vijay is in love with Asin or not. The only relief is that inspite of all pointers towards it, the film doesn’t turn into a cliched rich girl-poor boy love story.

Sivakasi’s second half is simply a rehash of Dhool as Vijay goes up against a politician. We even have the actress from Dhool, shouting and screaming in the same way. But Vijay’s plans here fall in one of two categories – they are either silly(like the whole sequence with Nayanthara) or distasteful(like the lie he makes his sister believe). He manipulates everyone around him unmindful of their feelings and gives some lame-a** excuse to rationalize it. The villagers are pretty much shown as fools who fall for cheap gimmicks and are swayed by theatrics.

Tiruppaachi worked because it had the right tone. The first half was all comedy and sentiment while the second half was devoted to action and violence. But Perarasu here seems unsure of the tone of the movie. This is very evident in the second half as Vijay’s mood varies alarmingly from one scene to the next. In one scene he is a clown, joking around with Prakashraj as he dupes him. And in the next, he is the dutiful son itching for revenge with bloodshot eyes. It takes an interesting screenplay and a charismatic hero to make such changes in tone seem natural and neither Perarasu nor Vijay possess the skills for that.

The one thing Perarasu has done well is ‘build-up’. Vijay has an amazing introduction scene that makes one itch to clap and the sequences where Vijay’s heroism is projected(using techniques like slo-mo, changing colors, etc.) are done well. But the scene where a stiff Perarasu introduces himself under the pretext of praising Vijay smacks of amateurishness.

Vijay expectedly dances and fights with gusto. But his expressions, dialog delivery and style are getting stale already. He may not lose his fans with Sivakasi but he’s not going to get any new fans either. Asin does her job well but disappears post-intermission, reappearing briefly for a duet. Prakashraj screams almost all the time he is on screen but his villainy is so over- the-top that it is completely ineffective. Vaada Vaada… and Kodambakkam Area… turn out to be the most enjoyable song sequences mainly because of Vijay’s dance skills. Nayanthara struggles to keep up with him in the latter though. The lone melody Idhu Enna… and the pathos number Dheivathukke… are played in bits and pieces at a few different places. Deepavali… and Ada Ennatha… are both marked by weird costumes and poor choreography.

Sivakasi offers rather feeble fireworks.

218 Comments:

At 8:51 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

Looks like another must-miss Vijay film!

Vijay's resemblance to Vijayakanth extends beyond their names. Both have no variety in their acting, do the same type of movies, have inexplicable huge fan following, and average 1 good movie every 3-4 years!

 
At 9:44 PM, Blogger Balaji said...

prakash, yep. and this review's from a marginal Vijay fan!
i was thinking of 2 other actors when i talked about stereotyping - sarathkumar and vijayakanth. but even they have some variety since they play double roles, etc. vijay's defly the actor with the least variety in his movies... in all these yrs in tamil cinema, he has never played a double role or even a policeman! but the rest of the comparison with vijayakanth's right :)

skanda, i think vijay was doing some romantic films and all of them flopped. when 1 of his masala films clicked, he immediately started following that formula. didnt know much about that telugu film. lets see what he does with that!

 
At 9:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

vijayode deepavali busssss-vaanam aayduchu polarukkey...will wait with bated breath to see asin kutty in Maja....
bb, will u be attending the adhu oru kana kalam screening? i'm looking fwd to the movie in spite the long delays and the unimpressive promos...just coz i trust balu mahendra to come up with a sensitive tale...paakalaam!

 
At 10:33 PM, Blogger Narayanan Venkitu said...

Umm.Thanks for the review Balaji...I was about to watch it on Saturday. Thank God I didn't..though I have a small sabalam..even now...( Asin / Nayanthara.

I am not a big fan of Vijay.!! Honestly..haven't seen any of his films so far.!! I know I am too prejudiced.!! Sorry.!

 
At 12:12 AM, Blogger nivas said...

Didn't expect much from a Vijay film anyway. Hopefully, if this flops he may learn something....he keeps saying that he does the same role again and again because it is successful!

 
At 1:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi balaji
the main reason i would say why the film looked so boring(or Jarring should i say) is because we had seen something similar in Thirupachi

vijaY is sticking to his image barring in mind that by only maintaining his image he could shot himself to a Rajini kinda image...you see, i came to know vijay has almost 75 % of fans who are die hard rajini fans...i think he should be able to reach that image quite soon as his films cater the mass not many of the class

Some reviewer even said to me that there is no point reviewing a Vijay or Rajini film as it is like watching a superman or Batman movie

you get the same stuff a beyong human image with a baddie who tries hard to stomp his efforts

by the way, about the variety of roles vijay is going be a police in a film called ~Puli~ by the sleaze king SJ Suryah.

Whatever he does, one thing i can say is that his die hard fan will NEVER let him down

~p.s i seriously think Surya is the best actor so far and he would have been a better choice as his body language,tone is almost perfect

 
At 3:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

thanks for the warning. looking forward to Majaa now.

 
At 3:36 AM, Blogger Kaps said...

if majority of the people are mediocre, Vijay's mediocre movies are targetted at them and it might succeed as well. Vijay's reliance on formula movies proves that he doesn't have the risk appetite to try something new.

 
At 9:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Atleast vijay can keep box office
ringing all the time than others.

 
At 9:46 AM, Blogger Balaji said...

ram, i'm looking fwd to AOKK for the same reasons. but don't think i'll catch it on the big screen. i'm defly more interested in 'majaa' which will probably be screened the same weekend. and AOKK will be shown in naz which is a good 40 mins away... didnt seem like a big deal b4 but with 2 kids and after being spoilt by the 10 min drive to AMC, naz seems too much of a hassle :)

narayanan, sabalapadara alavukku 'sivakasi'-la onnum illa. asin comes only in 1st half and nayan has only an item number :)

nivas, true. it might take a few flops to make him try something new again.

navindran, thats all true. but even for a hero's film, the packaging is really important. thats why even the big stars have flops. the fans will c the film anyway but its the packaging that makes them come back and makes regular viewers see the film. thats what will make it a hit. 'iruppaachi' was packaged much better than this.

balaji, u're welcome :)

kaps/anon, i can't imagine 'sivakasi' becoming a hit. but if it does, then i will truly accept vijay's superstardom and box-office standing...

 
At 12:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello Balaji
I have been to your site so many times, this is the first time I am leaving a message. For evey movie that is released, your blog is the firstlace I come for review this time Diwali padam achenu, oru sabalathula myself and my husband went to Sivakasi that too first day first show- Thevaiya enghaluku!!!!!!!!.My husband warned me of the consequences, but still I went.
Now my husband says " read the review that too in Balaji's blog before going to any movie" I think nice lesson learnt
Wish you all a very happy and fun-filled diwali!!!!!

Swapna

 
At 12:41 PM, Blogger Balaji said...

swapna, LOL. a bad movie with a bunch of hardcore vijay fans. i can imagine how u guys felt! thanx(to u and hubby) for the vote of confidence :)

And wish u a very happy diwali too...

 
At 1:26 PM, Blogger Orange Fronkey said...

Enakku theriyum intha padam bussvaanamai poidumnu heeeeeeehehehehhehe *cackles*

 
At 1:28 PM, Blogger Orange Fronkey said...

By the way.. Indiaglitz is all praises for the movie "kasthoorimaan"... I cant wait to get it on dvd.. also waiting for kanda naal muthal!

 
At 2:22 PM, Blogger Balaji said...

merino, wow evlo sandhosham! ajithkku kooda ivlo sandhosham irukadhu nenaikiren :) anyway, padam enakku thaan pudikkala. box-office results inimel thaane therium :)

 
At 3:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

majaavum puttukichu

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/review.php?id=13975377&ctid=5&cid=2429

 
At 3:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As much as I hate my namesake for his stupid "punch" dialogues and stereotypical films and have wished him innumerable flops, I cant help but think that if a director like Selvaraghavan or Bala did a film with him maybe we would see a different actor on screen. The problem is the guy doesnt want to take any risks at all.

Because I remember how I used to curse at Surya not too long ago when he acted in a bunch of duds. And then a remarkable tranformation courtesy Bala and he has been on the right track ever since and has been growing admirable in every dept. Vijay needs a good director who can prvide the commercial elements in a challenging/different role. I am not sure if Puli is it and I am not holidng my breath either, but it was just a thought. Most mega stars have to thank some director or the other for providing them the right break at the right time. Kamal might be a slight exception but even his career post-Nayagan took off in a different direction and he avoided movies like Andha oru nimidam, per sollum piLLai etc. to a great extent.

 
At 3:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wont feel too sad if Maja flopes either, going by the (p)review and all. Whats funny is Vikram made some comments saying that he acted in a very serious film and so needed the next one to be a breezy entertainer. The fact is both Anniyan and Maja are just commercial films. Anniyan is no Hey Ram or Pithamagan and didnt provide anything much intellectual or emotionally.Both Vikram and Surya seem to be doing well-packed commercial films these days. I hope they dont fall into the star-image trap that has been the bane of tamil film industry. Expecting more experimental ventures from them.

 
At 4:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

vijay, i dont quite agree with u...i think vikram meant that the 3 roles he took in "Anniyan" were demanding, physically and otherwise...he goes nuts altering his physique that I think what he meant was that he wanted to do a lightweight role...dont think even he would have the heart to put something like Anniyan in the same league as Pithamagan or the brilliant Hey! Ram.

 
At 4:56 PM, Blogger Balaji said...

vijay, true. we do need a director to bring out the actor in vijay. the question is whether there is an actor in him! because of his averseness to risk, we havent had a single movie where he has shown signs of something different from his trademark expressions. among the 2 directors u've suggested, i think selvaraghavan would be the better fit for him. bala might be too radical for him(surya was in a different point in his career when 'nandhaa' happened and didn't have the mass image vijay has) but selvaraghavan's raw, earthy style could fit vijay's image too.

and i agree with ram on vikram's choice of words. he referred to his own efforts in the 2 movies rather than the genre of the movies themselves. 'anniyan' would fall in the category of movies like MMKR or even 'indian' which were ostensibly masala movies(i.e. they had all the masala ingredients) but required their heroes to really perform in roles that reqd. more than simply fighting, dancing and clowning around.

 
At 5:55 PM, Blogger Orange Fronkey said...

Balaji... I dislike Vijay that much... and I dislike Ajith as much and perhaps even more... I'm waiting to cackle at his movie also.. *rubs hands together*

 
At 10:42 PM, Blogger Balaji said...

skanda, i agree. vijay has done only 2 kinds of movies so far. that was my point too. regarding the romantic movies, he had a string of flops like shah jahan, vaseegara, etc. so when 'tirumalai' became a hit, he began following the masala formula. and the success of 'gilli', 'tiruppaachi', etc. must've convinced him that it was the right choice...

zero, with tamil cinema being so hero-oriented, chauvinism is unavoidable. any movie of rajni, sarath, vijayakanth, etc. could be called chauvinistic. its just the degree that differs. but in some movies, it kinda jumps out at us and is pretty much distasteful. 'sivakasi' falls in that category.

 
At 12:12 AM, Blogger Bart said...

Balaji, agree with your views. But these hero-oriented, chauvinistic movies are patronised and lapped up by the core tamil audience - Thiruppachi for example... Looking at the heavy grossers in the past decade brings out Thiruppachi, Saamy, Gilli, Padayappa, Naattamai and the likes which are are heavily hero-oriented. So, it is obvious that every wannabe-number-one actor and director makes movies along these lines!
On Sivakasi, I agree with most of ur views which I've echoed in my blog...
However, i feel the movie would be a commercial hit for whatever it is!!!

 
At 11:04 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

Sivakasi has a big opening. Vijay superstar?

And Balaji, looks like your 'Adhu Oru Kanakaalam' prediction was right :(

 
At 12:24 PM, Blogger Balaji said...

bart, i would classify those movies u've listed as hero-oriented but not necessarily irritatingly chauvinistic. vijay's vulgar comments to asin, his behavior, his slapping her, etc. were pretty nasty in 'sivakasi'...

prakash, considering his popularity, a big opening was a given. lets wait and c if the movie has legs...

vee-jay, so u didn't heed my email warning about 'sivakasi'?! i bet u wished u had now huh? :)

 
At 3:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"i think vikram meant that the 3 roles he took in "Anniyan" were demanding, physically and otherwise"

thats what I found laughable. As for toning his body, Surya did the same in Ghajini(and previous films too) without making any issue out of it

 
At 7:43 AM, Blogger Ram C said...

Luckily, I decided much earlier that I am not going to watch it...

As expected, we may not like it.. but it seems, the mass like it, by the way B.O. numbers are shown during these initial few days.

 
At 7:55 AM, Blogger Balaji said...

vijay, it may not have looked that way on screen, but vikram may actually have worked a lot to perform in 'anniyan'. and when he talks about "physically demanding", he may have been referring not just to the toning of his body but the physical stuff he had to do for the stunts, etc.

vee-jay, my sympathies :)

ramc, i also saw that amrathnam is predicting that it'll be a hit like 'gilli'. pretty sad :(

 
At 9:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

" vijay, it may not have looked that way on screen, but vikram may actually have worked a lot to perform in 'anniyan'."

It may not have looked that way on screen but Thangar Bachchan might actually have put in a lot of work in Chidambarathil oru appasaamy'nu kooda sollalaam :-) Its just speculation.
same can be said about Ghajini too and several other films by other actors. There is nothing concrete to suggest that Vikram did something so special in Anniyan that he or someone else had'nt done before. If Bhavatharini said she had to work 24hrs a day to deliver a song like "mayil pola" I'll laugh hard no matter what.
As for the stunts, most of them were insane graphics stuff anyways.

 
At 4:25 PM, Blogger Balaji said...

vijay, yep. definitely speculation. its just our take on it thats different. i guess i'm just giving vikram the benefit of doubt :)

 
At 5:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

so u r all saying tht this film is a waste film , but u shud see the responses for this film in theatres and the reviews this film is gettin among the media (TV, print n net ) .
http://www.behindwoods.com/features/moviearticles/articles2/sivakasi/tamil-movie-article-sivakasi.html

from this article


"A friend asked me to describe the movie Sivakasi. Only half jokingly, I said "No technical merit. No story to talk of. No artistic merit. No acting merit. No songs worth the music director's fee. No nothing! But one of the best movie I've seen"

That I still feel is true. For the first time in my life, I came face to face with the kind of frenzy Rajni Kanth must have gotten bored of in the 80s. And I can see why he got to where he is, if he was all that Vijay is and more. And he is."

frm sify

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/review.php?id=13975906&ctid=5&cid=2429

Sivakasi designed as a B-grade 3M extravaganza, is a cracker of a movie and delivers the goods.

verdict : satisfaction guaranteed

another one

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=13975521
Among the Diwali releases early indications are that Vijay’s Sivakasi is the clear winner

It is true tht this film may not appeal to class audience but the point here is whats the percentage of class audience here in our state.Its very low and the front benchers actually decide the fate of a movie bcoz they r the repeat audience and their major source of entertainment is cinema .But this is not the case for class audience who hv other sources also . So to be succesful and click at the box -office every actor has to understand this and make some fans among the frontbenchers . Even when vijay,s film were not goin well some two years back he had a fantastic openin for his movies bcoz of this front benchers . Thts why producers r runnin after him to get his dates for doin a film . Some heroes may appeal to class audience (eg.madhavan ) but when one or two of their films doesnt do well , their next film even if its gud may not hv a say at the box-office . So its no gud sayin tht vijay repeats his roles all the times , bcoz this is goin to work grt for him and as well as the industry .

im comin from a family based in cinema
we do the distribution of films .
ths y i wanted i wanted to share the thoughts with u people wat the trade really feels .

NO WONDER HERE IN DISTRIBUTOIN CIRCLE
VIJAY IS CALLED THE

"VASOOL CHAKRAVARTHY"

P.S : im not a fan of vijay. i dun like him a bit.

 
At 7:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Mr.Balaji just hates Vijay. It is a better movie than Tirupachi by far, Tirupachi has shades of telugu movie Arjun, and has dull comedy sequences, un-eccenteric fights, and loud plus telugu remade songs. The movie also had slightly more heroism even more than Rajnikanth's movies as there are no scope for performances for anyone apart from Vijay.
Sivakasi by contrast is fantastic, it has taken an amazing opening, the movie all set to be the biggest tamil movie in Malaysian theatre history, advance booking is amazing too, i went to sivakasi on friday at noon show, i cant get the ticket, i can see many people who were watching noon show buying tickets for the midnite show as well,
sify.com famesd for critical of Vijay's movies, there disliked tirupachi and called it as mindless movie, but look at that 175 days there you go, but there are full praise of Vijay and Perarasu for Sivakasi.
Still eraly days many dont know which is better, AM Rathnam the biggest producer in south, has said in interview that sivakasi could be bigger than Ghilli
Just wait for Anandhavikatan marks which i have to say as the standard description of a movie

Sachein got 42 marks and went to be a hit (100 days i think),
Tirupachi got 40 marks and went to be a Super-Hit
i think Vijay's Sivakasi will get a 41 and will be a blockbuster
after all Surya who has only college going fans delivered a hit in Ghajini...

 
At 10:51 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

anon1, I think we are all saying that watching the movie is a waste of our time. We don't presume to speak for the "masses" (whatever that term might mean.) And I don't think even God can predict what fans will like and dislike, so how can we mere mortals?!

anon2, I don't think Balaji knows Vijay enough to love/hate him! :) I also don't think he claims to be an accurate predictor of the box office. He's just telling us what he thinks of the films he sees. The fact that the film is a superhit doesn't change the fact that Balaji thinks the movie sucks!

 
At 12:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

prakash , its sad tht u dun understand wat the word 'masses' meant . In film circle we divide the audience in two types namely class audience and the masses(college students comes under general category bcoz they see al kind of films) . The class audience r the high class n intellectual buffs who always thinks on logic n on the lines of decency . The masses r the ones who thinks tht movies r just for entertainment .They r the ones who do hero worship. They dun look out for logic in films , they just go to theatres for entertainment and they shud get the value for money they pay . Fortunately or unfortunately here about 80% of the people come under the category of masses . so instead trying to convince the class audience its better u try to convince the masses .

the best eg for a class film for class audience wud be ANBE SIVAM , HEY RAM n so on . But see the fate of those films . Here the masses rule the success of the films not the class audience

MR.BALAJI wrote

"kaps/anon, i can't imagine 'sivakasi' becoming a hit. but if it does, then i will truly accept vijay's superstardom and box-office standing..."

i think u shud accept it as already the Box-office standing for sivakasi is grt .
My uncle who distributed the film in our area is floating in the air bcoz he was able to collect the money what he paid for buying the film in just 3 days . i can say tht the amount is huge.

the reat of the money tht the film makes in the long run is profit to the theatres , producer n my uncle . Even if the film was a flop (but it is not a flop , ican assure u tht ) all the people involved with the film wud not be makin losses and they wud break even . This is wat the industry wants . they dun want to incur losses .
THTYS Y THEY R RUNNIN AFTER VIJAY .
THTS Y THEY CALL HIM THE NUMERO UNO AND BADSHAH OF KOLLYWOOD

 
At 12:49 PM, Blogger Balaji said...

anons, as prakash said, this was just my opinion of the movie. if u've read previous posts and comments, u will see that i do not hate vijay. i like him and his kind of masala movies and was looking fwd to 'sivakasi'. in fact, i even loved the intro scene and the intro song in the film. but i felt it went downhill after that.

u'll see that i don't mention anywhere in my review that the movie lacked logic. i don't expect that in a vijay movie and i don't mind the lack of it. but it was other things like poor characterization, vulgarity, uneven tone, ill-timed jokes in the 2nd half, etc. that put me off.

that was a pretty good definition of masses. but the same masses have made hits out of movies like 'autograph', etc. and flops out of many vijayakanth movies. so while your points r right, they must find the movie entertaining to make it a hit.

my review says that i didnt like it and not that the movie will not be a hit. i fully accept that the movie could go on to be a hit though personally i think its too early to judge if itll be a hit or not. when u have a top hero, the 1st few weeks go solely based on his appeal. its the crowds after that that determine whether its a hit or not. lets wait and see if 'sivakasi' makes it.

 
At 1:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vijay does really irritate doing the same thing over and over at times and refusing to experiment..But Like Vijay said above, I think another director like Selvaragavan, or Shankar could really bring out the potential in Vijay, because he does have untapped talent. Anyway, I heard that Sivakasi is emerging the winner. In Malayalam, it got a better opening than a Mohanlal film...Also, other reports and reviews say that it's much better than Gilli or Thirupachi and that it's a lot of fun.. here are reviews...

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/interview.php?cid=2408
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/review.php?id=13975906&ctid=5&cid=2429
http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/review/7498.html

 
At 1:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

definitely 'sivakasi' has made it bcoz nowadays its not the crowd after the first week that is determining whether a film is hit or a flop it is solely the collections of the film tht determine the films fate .

Gone r those days when for a film to be classified as a hit it shud run for 100 days . Nowadays no one is bothered if a film runs for only 25 days as long as it gets the money tht was invested in it they dun care if it runs for 25 days or 250 days .

bcoz of the huge fan following of our stars ( in this case vijay ) the films tends to recover more thn wat the producers and distributors put in the first week itself . main factor for this is also the high ticket prices .

as Balaje said in 'sivakasi's ' case the crowds after the first week does not determine whether the film is a hit or not , they just determine the extent of the hit of the movie . thts the advantage of bein a mass hero (vijay,vikram..) rather thn a class hero(madhavan,surya) .

how trade classifies the success of the film based on collection rather thn the number of days the film runs

1. collects more thn invested in first week -blockbuster

2.break even in first week -super hit

3.comes near to break even in first week - hit

4.has decent openin -average

5.no explanation needed -flop

this classification may not apply to a film like 'kadhal' or 'autograph' bcoz these films were released with less expectations and after their release bcoz of the word of mouth the collections picked up in the later weeks and they went on to become a superhit.

here 'sivakasi ' surely come between 1 and 2 that is between blockbuster and superhit . As of now after 4 days after its release here the film is definitely a superhit and hv to wait till the end of the weekend to know abt the extent of collections the film brings

 
At 3:07 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

anon, you seem to have your finger on the pulse of trade collections. I guess the difference is the way Balaji reviews a movie (artistically) and the way you do (from a business standpoint).

Just out of curiosity, how did 'Baba' do in its first week? Because it is a Rajini film, I am assuming that it had a big opening week too. But the movie was a flop, right? I think that's Balaji's point when he says "let's wait a few weeks before calling Sivakasi a superhit."

As for 'class' vs 'mass', I know the general definition. But as Balaji pointed out, some so-called class movies do well with the so-called masses. And some so-called mass movies flop all around. At least to a certain extent, I think this is an excuse that moviemakers use to hide their lack of creativity.

 
At 8:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys,
These days even directors are not thinking too much about their stories. But normal people like us are thinking a lot to write a reivew. So take it easy guys.

 
At 10:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im the Malaysian anonymous,
There are two types of audiences class and mass, class people can do mass roles like Kamalhassan's Sakalakala Vallavan, Madhavan's Run, Vikram's Dhool, Surya's Shree
But mass heroes cant do A-list movies, Thats the problem people like Rajnikanth, Vijay, Vijaykanth cant come out of their larger than life image, they will have lots of fans world-wide but they wont have A class fans
movies are entertainment, and hero is the biggest asset, Rajni and Vijay knows it well..

 
At 8:56 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

anon :-), yes, you are right. We are spending more time thinking about this than the directors!

 
At 10:48 AM, Blogger Balaji said...

Ayyo ayyo VIJAY ellam oru hero'va ... KADAVULAE plz save this tamil industry from VIJAY n AJITH SIVAKASI sucks . . .

 
At 6:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

prakash , u r sayin tht BABA was a flop . But do u know tht it had one of the best openings ever for a tamil cinema at the time . The film turned out a loss bcoz the film was sold at a very very huge price . Remember , very very huge price to the distributors thts y they faced problems when the film didnt do well . But the opening wek itself commanded about 15-20 crores worldwide . This wud hv made the film profitable if it was sold at a reasonable price
now comin to sivakasi the production cost of sivakasi was abt 7 crores and the producer sold out the film for 16 crores .
The film has already made up the money tht it was sold for bcoz Vijay has the best openins after Rajnikanth . so the money the film collects herafter is termed as profit . so certainly the film is a hit.

best openers in tamil cinema...

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=13977672


do u know a BAD FILM LIKE SACHIN WAS THE FOURTH TOP GROSSER BEHIND CHANDRAMUKHI,ANNIYAN,TIRUPACHI during the first half-yearly 2005 . This is the power of openin which clearly makes a film a hit . Sachin went on to complete 200 days in theatres !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
At 9:35 PM, Blogger Bart said...

I agree with anon on his trade related comments.. Bang on.
The opening can save and even shoot the movie up, provided it is sold under right prices. But, the point is whether the movie runs for long or not decides whether the next movie is going to get a similar opening.. But for established heros like Vijay and Vikram the buffer might be higher (say 2 to 3 movies continually can be duds). So, anon, wait and watch if the movie is gonna run long (for that matter, tirupachi's long run saved sachein!). Also, Arya's prev hits saved "Oru Kalluriyin Kathai" from being a flop!
So just don't live by openings. Even while playing it to the gallery, play with care.. Vijay and Perarasu should pick these clues from "Sivakasi" in short!

 
At 11:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What would be Top 10 Grossers at the end of the year

1. Chandramukhi
Plus
i. Rajnikanth
ii. Jhotika
iii. Safe remake


2. Sivakasi
Plus
i. Vijay's mass image
11. Wholesome entertainer
iii. No competetition


3. Anniyan
Plus
i. Message orientation
11. Vikram's Dedication
iii. Production values


4. Tirupachi
Plus
i. Vijay's amazing screen presence
ii. Sentiment
iii. Action sequences


5. Ghajini
Plus
i. Surya and Asin
ii. Racy and inventive screenplay


6. Sachein
Plus
i. Vijay's all round display
ii. Genelia's surprisingly good performance
iii. Youth elements

7. Arinthum Ariyamalum
Plus
i. Prakash Raj and Arya
ii. Peppy songs
iii. Youth elements

8. Raam
Plus
i. Good performance from Jeeva
ii. Ameer's taking
iii. Good music

9. Chanakya
Plus
i. Sarath's action hero image
ii. Masala Mix


10. Thotti Jaya
Plus
i. Racy Screenplay


If you look at the list 3 out of top 6 movies are from Vijay, and youre calling him a terror. Look what happened to people copied Vijay, like Jeyam Ravi, he copies Vijay to the maximum, from dance, fight and comedy, and hes awful in any case.

 
At 12:46 AM, Blogger மு.கார்த்திகேயன் said...

Hope, you are a vijay fan..where sachien came..is it a flim like what you try to figure out..And Sivakasi is in third..that's a big joke..In what aspect you are putting this list..if you are saying good flims, then there is no way to put vijay flims in top 5 flims, where we have ghajini, anniyan, where both director and actor did well..don't try to make people idiotic

 
At 3:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wnt to know which film is a ssuperhit , read this article from sify

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=13978481

this is the article

`Sivakasi` super, `Majaa` miserable!

The Diwali box-office results are out- only Sivakasi is a super hit and the rest have all been washed away by rains and lackluster content.

Vijay’s Sivakasi, in spite of heavy rains crackled the most at the Tamilnadu box-office. It took a 100 percent opening in the first three days all over. At Kolathur Ganga theatre, a suburb of Chennai the film grossed an amazing Rs 7.26 Lakhs on Diwali day!

Meanwhile, the other biggie Majaa is turning out to be damp squib at the box-office. The trade feels that the film lacks nativity and the audience felt letdown with Vikram’s character with hardly any heroism like a Remo or Anniyan in Anniyan. The collections of Majaa has been sliding from day one.

Another Diwali release Athu Oru Kana Kalam is a total wash out and we will not like to reveal the miserable collection figures! Perusu with newcomers is also a flop.


still thr r arguments whether sivakasi is a hit or a flop

but its a super hit

7.26 lakhs in a single theatre , in a single day , tht too in a suburban theatre which may not hv huge capacity . thts the power of masses .

hats off to vijay...

 
At 7:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr.Karthikeyan, good films, OK
Do you know Vijay's Sachein was shortlisted in oscar entries to represent India?...Not good movie eh?


well if you read Anandhavikatan, the top scoring movies are..

Anniyan -48
Chidamabrathil Oru Appasamy -44
Ghajini -43
Ponniyin Selvan -43
Sachein-42

what you make of this, he made everybody happy with Sivakasi, he gives his 100% to the movie and for the fans, and he made lot of money as well, and he is virtually No.2 to Rajnikanth now... So he dont need to do class movies,

well if Kamal dint do Sakalakala Vallavan or Thoongathey Thambi Thoongathey in 80's we would not have the best actor in India...

Vikram should not have been very cocky if he just done Sethu, Kaasi, and Pithamaghan and not Dhill, Dhool and Saami..

 
At 5:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow interesting read!!!balaji thanx for pointing me to it cos with the prej i have abt vijay i just skipped yr review on sivakasi!:(
to the anon fm the distributor family:
this was my feedback abt sachein fm a film circle source
it just broke even and WAS MADE TO RUN
and anyways i beg to differ that genelia performed well!!!u mean she OVER-acted well!!!!
pls tell me eththanai naaL dhaan EVEN the masses can b fooled!!!avanga kaadhila thirumbi thirumbi poo suththinaa ....
old wine in new bottle cant always do a good recycle job!!!
fm what i hrd fm the film circle only kasthurimaan is worth "expecting"...AOKK has shades of AA, and sivakasi majaa ellam oray tharaasu dhaan!!!
no grt shakes...oray kuttaiyil irukkum mattaigaL!:)
masses can also appreciate a winner..autograph and sethu were proof of that.Q.E.D!!!

 
At 5:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

after thot...
totally agree that surya and vijay cannot b compared cos surya could b moulded and he can actually ACT u know!!puts in a helluva lot of effort into his "characters",and bala caught him young!!!b4 he had formulated a set style or pattern of speech,and his major plus is he has expressive eyes which vijay doesnt!
and the even more praiseworthy factor is that surya's dad has never pushed or pulled his son's career unlike u know who!
JAFT( just an after thot!!!):)

 
At 6:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

chandramukhi soneengaLae adhu i agree
but what message orientation in
anniyan that shankar didnt give in his own film 'indian' idhula pudhusaa kuduthaar???
and i wldnt go so far to say good performance by jeeva in raam,aedho ameer made him act betetr than he has done so far avalavudhaan,best of jeeva's own bad lot of movies,which is hardly a yardstick!!!
and to say jeyam ravi is awful in any case is just a matter of opinion..i wld say its a close call bet him and vijay:)

 
At 6:48 AM, Blogger Munimma said...

Vijaykku ivalavu supporta????

rekhs, small addendum to yours -
forget expressive eyes, there is nothing a bit expressive in that one :-)

Sachien shortlisted for oscars - well, considering the movies that were in the running, except for black and a small extent, paheli!

 
At 6:25 AM, Blogger srijithunni said...

I just felt that I had to leave a comment here..

I haven`t seen "Sivakasi".. But coming to actor Vijay.. He may not be a great actor, but he is truly a great dancer.. He has just been branded too soon.. the poor guy.

I liked him in "Priyamudan". He was good in "Kaadhalukku Mariyadai" as well. I hope he reflects about his career and and comes up with something for people sitting on all seats in all theatres soon.

 
At 3:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

people go to see films of say vikram , surya thinkin they will see somethin different in each of their movies . They do film with gud directors , hv fud supportin cast , hv gud music directors . so thers a reason for their films to do well .

But as u rekhs said here vijay,s film is old wine in new bottle , its all recycled stories . his film has no grt supportin cast , no grt music directrors , no grt directors . most of the directors he is workin with are new comers . with all these he is able to make his each of his movies a hit .

thts the power of vijay , thts the power of masses.

by the read the tamil magazine kumudam arnd a month back , it reported tht producer of sachin gave vijay a n extra crore of gratitude bcoz the bfore the film was released the producer was in debts but now he has enuf profits to pay him a n extar crore . tht tell abt the profit he made it in the movie .

how many movies did mgr put grt efforts to act .
these guys like surya , vikram does need to do somehtin different to make a mark for their films .every film of theirs is a different kind of movies .
but guys like say MGR ,rajni , vijay does not need to do these knd of changes . if they dun do also people will come and watch their movies .

its a differetn kind of actors u r talkin abt her

SUPER-HEROES-MGR,RAJNI,VIJAY

ACTORS-SIVAJI,KAMAL,VIKRAM,SURYA

ITS NO USE WHEN U ARGUE WHETHER SIVAJI IS BETTER THN MGR , KAMAL IS BETTER THN RAJNI , VIKRAM IS BETTER THN VIJAY .

BCOZ PEOPLE KNOW IT AND THEY THINK THT PEOPLE WHO ACT IS NOT BETTER BUT PEOPLE WHO STAND UP FOR THEM IS BETTER .

AND THE PEOPLE WHO R ATANDIN UP FOR THEM IN EACH AND EVERY MOVIE ARE THE SUPER-HEROES AND NOT HE ACTORS . THTS Y THE SUPER-HEROES CREATE MASSES AND NOT THE ACTORS . THTS Y THERE R FANATICS BEHIND THE SUPER-HEROES .


IF U WANT TO GET MORE ON THIS ACTOR AND SUPER HERO STUFF GO AND READ THIS ARTICLE , THIS IS FOR U REKHS

http://www.hindu.com/2005/11/16/stories/2005111615400200.htm

 
At 10:10 PM, Blogger Balaji said...

anon, sorry i had to delete your comment. please avoid foul language in comments. Thanks.

 
At 1:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

its fine that vijay's movies make money at the box-office but does that mean he's done justification--he's an awfull actor with proper exploitation of the masses....

please people dont support him for hios hits!!!he's an useless actor..

the overall taste of the audience is falling very badly when we get to know that movies like aayitha ezhuthu, anbe sivam , poniyin selvan are flops!!!! really a shame!!!

"vijay u be the way u want no one wants to fall in that list and keep exploiting the masses."

he can never make it to a good directors movie like manirathnam,bala etc...

surya ,vikram and even simbh have the talent in them for sure..

 
At 1:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey vijay fans did u help compose that terrific song in sivakaasi

"enga amma unga appa nambala sethu veppala"!!!!

 
At 1:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

a good thing that movies like arinthum ariyamalum have been good hits..

hats off to prakashraj and arya--really good perfomances!!!

a different and refreshing story with a poignant climax.

 
At 9:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

atleast vijay's film makes profit for the producers , distributors and the theatre owners which is wat at the end of the day the industry people want .

not like vikram's majaa where the producer had to run away fearing an onslought frm the distributors...

http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14015860

producer goin on a hidin ha ha ha ...thts really funny....

 
At 5:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hai this message is for all the guys who dont like vijay and who says he is doing same kind of movie,look u know who is great actor?the one who satify the director and producer as for as money concerned.vijay doing that in the great way.

so dont waste u guys timing by saying he is not good actor as vikram and suriya.whatever u guys say its not going to affect him in anyway.so go and mind ur business to come up in ur life.

 
At 12:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

haha

these messages are too funny...to think that Vijay of all people is being discussed to this extent....when he is so obviously of no substance...it's like writing a ten page essay about nothingness.....and to think i'm sitting here reading all this when i should be studying...*shakes head*.....i guess that is the power of loser vijay:)

 
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